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25 December 2025

617: How A Failing Skincare Brand Became An 8-Figure Makeup Empire

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The myth-busts, hot takes, explainers, and tools worth keeping.

Hot Take· 1

Hot Take27:30

Funding Rejections Preserved Fazit's Freedom to Pivot

Buttleman argues that failing to raise a large venture round became an advantage. In her view, investors might have pushed the company to remain focused on skincare, while limited capital forced the founders to become more inventive and preserved their control over the eventual makeup pivot.

  • Outside capital can narrow a young company's strategic freedom
  • Buttleman says the founders retained 98 percent ownership
  • She believes scarcity strengthened Fazit's disruptive marketing skills
  • Her recommendation depends on the capital intensity and business model

thank god we didn't raise money um because it allowed us the freedom to figure out where we wanted to go

Elliot Buttleman · 27:30

you need to learn how to build a company with nothing

Elliot Buttleman · 28:00
#bootstrapping#venture capital#ownership#founder control

Explainer· 1

Explainer45:30

Aspirational Products Can Solve Emotional Needs

Buttleman contrasts Fazit's literal skincare positioning with makeup patches that promise self-expression, speed, and participation in music or sports culture. Based on conversations with customers, she believes the product's strongest value is emotional: it can invite compliments, start conversations, and create a sense of community. These are her interpretations of customer response, not established psychological or medical findings.

  • Problem solving does not have to be purely functional
  • Customers may buy an identity, feeling, or social experience
  • Easy application made expressive makeup more accessible to non-experts
  • Customer conversations helped the founders identify emotional value
  • The product often acted as a conversation starter in the founders' experience

They want to be sold this dream of what something can feel like.

Elliot Buttleman · 46:30

maybe the problem we're solving is not so literal

Elliot Buttleman · 47:30
#aspiration#self-expression#community#customer psychology

Story· 3

Story01:30

The Eight Years Behind Fazit's Overnight Breakthrough

Elliot Buttleman describes learning that Taylor Swift appeared to be wearing Fazit's gold glitter freckles at a Kansas City Chiefs game. She frames the moment not as a simple lucky break, but as the culmination of eight years of entrepreneurial work and a business that was finally ready to respond.

  • A creator alerted Fazit before Buttleman fully registered the television images
  • Her husband's reaction video later received more than 10 million views, according to the host
  • Buttleman credits accumulated preparation as well as timing

I don't even want to say it was my lucky break

Elliot Buttleman · 01:30

it was 02 00 compounded years of the grind and the grit

Elliot Buttleman · 02:00
#founder story#virality#celebrity
Story13:30

Street Reactions Revealed Demand for Glitter Makeup

Buttleman initially struggled to see how glitter face patches fit Fazit's skincare positioning. Repeated unsolicited reactions in Los Angeles and New York changed her view, showing that the product created conversation and visible excitement before a formal launch.

  • The makeup sample initially conflicted with the existing brand story
  • Strangers asked about the product and assumed the design was difficult to create
  • A restaurant employee's compliment reinforced the product's social appeal
  • The founders paired a full rebrand with the makeup-patch launch

people are stopping me on the street saying what in the world is across your face

Elliot Buttleman · 14:00

we're so obsessed with your makeup

Restaurant employee, as recalled by Elliot Buttleman · 14:30
#customer feedback#product discovery#rebranding
Story16:00

A Missed Coachella Deadline Became a Presale Sellout

Fazit planned to launch its makeup patches around Coachella, but manufacturing delays meant finished inventory would not arrive in time. Friends used early samples in a festival preparation video, which went viral. Buttleman reports that the company sold 100,000 units before the product reached its warehouse.

  • The planned launch date was tied to a culturally relevant occasion
  • Manufacturing delays appeared to ruin the original plan
  • Early samples let the team test demand before final inventory arrived
  • The reported sellout gave the founders strong evidence of customer pull

our manufacturer couldn't get the product to our warehouse in time

Elliot Buttleman · 16:00

We sold out of a 100,000 units of product before the product even hit our warehouse.

Elliot Buttleman · 16:30
#product launch#coachella#presales#timing

Takeaway· 6

Takeaway06:30

How Fazit Stretched Its First $13,000

The founders used their initial savings for product design, packaging, samples, limited inventory, and a graphic designer. With no budget for a custom site or full marketing stack, they focused on organic social and product seeding, where the main costs were inventory and shipping.

  • Evaluate spending by whether it can materially move the business
  • Fund the minimum product and packaging needed to reach customers
  • Use controllable low-cash channels when specialist marketing is unaffordable
  • Influencer seeding reduced cash costs but still required product and postage

people should run their business at any phase with the mindset of I only have $13,000

Elliot Buttleman · 06:30

the only thing that was technically free that we could control and that we were good at was social media

Elliot Buttleman · 07:30
#bootstrapping#capital allocation#influencer seeding
Takeaway24:30

Why Desperate Founders Should Scrutinize Accelerator Terms

After many investor rejections, Fazit entered a largely technology-focused accelerator and received $50,000. Buttleman says the associated note treated another $50,000 as the program fee, and warns that desperate founders may accept contracts before they can afford legal advice or negotiate effectively. She also credits the program with adding governance and financial structure.

  • Investor rejection eventually produced an accelerator introduction
  • The program provided cash at a time of limited runway
  • Its financing structure included a substantial program cost
  • The founders gained governance and profit-and-loss discipline
  • Founders should understand contracts before accepting urgently needed capital

I would tell founders to be very weary of these accelerator programs.

Elliot Buttleman · 25:30

with that 26 00 desperation you say yes to things

Elliot Buttleman · 26:00
#accelerators#fundraising#convertible notes#governance
Takeaway40:30

Amazon Matched the Urgency Behind Fazit's Purchases

Fazit made Amazon a major channel because its products were often bought under time pressure. Buttleman says skincare buyers wanted fast delivery during a skin concern, while makeup buyers often needed an item for an imminent concert, game, wedding, or party. The channel choice followed customer urgency rather than conventional beauty-brand advice.

  • Direct delivery took roughly four to five days in the company's early experience
  • Amazon could offer same-day or next-day delivery
  • Both skincare and occasion makeup had time-sensitive purchase contexts
  • Buttleman prioritized customer convenience over prestige-channel conventions

Amazon's always been our biggest channel since day one.

Elliot Buttleman · 40:30

we want to make sure that our customer can get our product as quickly as possible

Elliot Buttleman · 41:00
#amazon#distribution#customer behavior#delivery
Takeaway43:30

A Big Retailer Is Not Growth If the Margin Is Bad

Nathan Chan asks whether a founder should accept a large retail opportunity that leaves only a 10 percent margin. Buttleman answers no and reflects that she wishes she had learned earlier that declining a deal can increase negotiating power. She also notes that even a fast-growing brand must reject collaborations that do not fit.

  • Retail scale does not compensate automatically for poor economics
  • The ability to walk away improves negotiating leverage
  • Cold outreach still has a place when a retailer is a strong fit
  • Brand collaborations should be evaluated for coherence, not prestige alone

I'm only 44 00 going to make 10 margins They're giving me a terrible deal Should I take it

Nathan Chan · 43:30

saying no is okay and it actually gives me more power

Elliot Buttleman · 44:30
#retail#negotiation#margins#brand partnerships
Takeaway48:30

Ambitious Goals Can Create Pressure and Structure

Buttleman says publicly stating a $3 million annual revenue goal forced her to think about how the company might reach it. She also describes an annual reflection exercise in which she calms her mind, writes the first business ambitions that arise, considers short-, medium-, and long-term horizons, and compares her team's answers for shared patterns. Her claim that all prior written goals came true is a personal account, not evidence that the ritual guarantees outcomes.

  • Saying a goal aloud can create accountability
  • A large target prompts questions about the structure needed to reach it
  • Buttleman combines intuitive reflection with multiple planning horizons
  • Team responses can reveal common priorities
  • The exercise sets intention but does not guarantee results

by saying that out loud you 49 30 put a bit of pressure on yourself

Elliot Buttleman · 49:30

see if there's patterns within the company for us to all work towards

Elliot Buttleman · 50:00
#goal setting#reflection#team alignment
Takeaway51:30

Build a Founder Network Before You Need a Gut Check

In her closing advice, Buttleman recommends learning tactical lessons from other founders and applying them as building blocks. She wishes she had developed a founder network earlier, with peers, advisers, and mentors at different stages who could offer help or a second opinion. She also urges founders to enjoy the daily work and remember that outside advice comes from people who know less about the company than its operators do.

  • Extract practical lessons from founder stories
  • Cultivate peers at different stages of the journey
  • Use advisers and mentors for help and gut checks
  • Value the day-to-day work rather than only the outcome
  • Filter outside advice through direct knowledge of the company

surround yourself around other founders at different stages

Elliot Buttleman · 52:00

no one knows your company better than you

Elliot Buttleman · 52:30
#networking#mentorship#founder advice#decision making